Indeed, Gnosticism is a very big problem. Gnosticism mixes truth with lies in such a way as to invert the ancient wisdoms upon which our civilizations were built. It is an insidious, nefarious, and highly dangerous movement encouraging moral relativism and post-modernism, and devaluing human life and dignity.
I grew up in a "Christian" Gnostic cul... ahm I mean community (actually more of a commune even). Of course there are just so many different Gnostic sects nowadays - but what they all have in common is their deep and passionate hatred and disdain for mainstream Christianity and for Jehovah.
They hate God - they hate him so much and they really think they themselves are God and Christ. And they hate God's creation. God loves the world, they hate the world and have nothing but disdain for our entire physical existence.
They may or may not openly worship Lucifer whom they regard as a good and godly entity and savior. They may or may not believe themselves to actually BE Lucifer, but in any case they aspire to be like him and believe he (and by extension they themselves) are so much better than the "foolish" "Demiurge" Jehovah.
They claim the name Lucifer wouldn't be in the Bible, but I disagree and so Isiah 14 comes to my mind and I feel it fits perfectly:
"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’
Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. Those who see you will gaze at you, And consider you, saying: ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, Who made the world as a wilderness And destroyed its cities, Who did not open the house of his prisoners?" "You have destroyed your land And slain your people."
So I agree, Lucifer is not Satan, but neither is he a god or savior, he is just a man who is so arrogant that he rules with an iron fist and has no regard for his fellow humans and even sees himself as God. In other words, he is precisely THEM.
You're right about the gnostic forms of Christianity having hatred for the world.
As a Hermeticist, I am diametrically opposed to gnosticism. Rather, I celebrate the world and its beauty, as something to be protected.
The Gnostic Death Cult is currently trying to depopulate the world - not in small part through the coronavirus bioweapon & vaccine. But also through fertility collapse and endocrine disruption (glyphosate, teflon, etc...) This will be a big part of my upcoming release in the 6th revision of my book.
I'm not entirely sure what you were getting at with the latter portion, could you clarify?
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Oh, just that at least some of them see Lucifer as a kind of savior or even see themselves as Lucifer. And while it's true that Lucifer isn't Satan, they still gotten Lucifer all wrong and I feel the entire part in the Bible in Isiah about Lucifer is actually a warning against people like them - people who rule with an iron fist and think they are God. I read some of the Hermetic texts. If you don't interpret them the way that Gnostics do, then I feel the texts themselves actually aren't bad and many of them actually praise, glorify and defend God. But Gnostics of course interpret it differently and turn everything upside down.
So my interpretation of Lucifer & Satan is through Hellenismo. They are Eros & Thanatos. I have a new slide for this, but it's not uploaded yet. Lucifer is Eros & Thanatos is Satan/Saturn. Lucifer is a deity of life and Satan is a deity of death. I am trying to work within the ancient context of these names not the modern biblical connotations,
In short, Lucifer is the morningstar, and satan is not. Recall that Jesus calls himself morningstar - which is Lucifer in Latin. In my view, Jesus was claiming to be Lucifer when he said he is the morningstar.
And yes I share your frustration with the gnostics. They have a lot to answer for. I have a whole new section on this in my book upcoming.
Hmmm... interesting... I realize you know a lot. Since you mentioned Lucifer, Saturn and Satan all in the same sentence and then also talked about the morning star, I am assuming you know about their relationship and what Lucifer originally referred to and where all of this comes from. But in any case, I can highly recommend the works of Immanuel Velikovsky and David Talbott (2 t's). But chances are you probably read them already, haven't you? ;-)
In short; nowadays we regard Venus as the morning star, but in ancient times that was actually Saturn. So Lucifer originally referred to the morning star which in turn originally referred to Saturn.
Also, why is Satan depicted with horns? Cause in ancient times people worshiped the divine bull and that was then made into Pagan idols like Baal and people would make bull statues and offer them (animal and human) sacrifice. What's the divine bull? Basically it's again Saturn - when viewed at an angle Saturn's ring looks like a bull's horn. Of course back then Saturn looked a bit different and had a different orbit - that's just roughly the idea.
I'm actually fairly new to theology & mythology, I've only been at it about 2 years. Most of my work has been in energy science. As such, I appreciate the insights.
In my model, the morning(star) is mercury and the dawn(star) is venus, I have my reasons for it, they will be published in the not too distant future.
I grew up in a "Christian" Gnostic cul... ahm I mean community (actually more of a commune even). Of course there are just so many different Gnostic sects nowadays - but what they all have in common is their deep and passionate hatred and disdain for mainstream Christianity and for Jehovah.
They hate God - they hate him so much and they really think they themselves are God and Christ. And they hate God's creation. God loves the world, they hate the world and have nothing but disdain for our entire physical existence.
They may or may not openly worship Lucifer whom they regard as a good and godly entity and savior. They may or may not believe themselves to actually BE Lucifer, but in any case they aspire to be like him and believe he (and by extension they themselves) are so much better than the "foolish" "Demiurge" Jehovah.
They claim the name Lucifer wouldn't be in the Bible, but I disagree and so Isiah 14 comes to my mind and I feel it fits perfectly:
"How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! For you have said in your heart: ‘I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God; I will also sit on the mount of the congregation On the farthest sides of the north; I will ascend above the heights of the clouds, I will be like the Most High.’
Yet you shall be brought down to Sheol, To the lowest depths of the Pit. Those who see you will gaze at you, And consider you, saying: ‘Is this the man who made the earth tremble, Who shook kingdoms, Who made the world as a wilderness And destroyed its cities, Who did not open the house of his prisoners?" "You have destroyed your land And slain your people."
So I agree, Lucifer is not Satan, but neither is he a god or savior, he is just a man who is so arrogant that he rules with an iron fist and has no regard for his fellow humans and even sees himself as God. In other words, he is precisely THEM.
You're right about the gnostic forms of Christianity having hatred for the world.
As a Hermeticist, I am diametrically opposed to gnosticism. Rather, I celebrate the world and its beauty, as something to be protected.
The Gnostic Death Cult is currently trying to depopulate the world - not in small part through the coronavirus bioweapon & vaccine. But also through fertility collapse and endocrine disruption (glyphosate, teflon, etc...) This will be a big part of my upcoming release in the 6th revision of my book.
I'm not entirely sure what you were getting at with the latter portion, could you clarify?
And, welcome to my blog! Thank you for your subscription.
Oh, just that at least some of them see Lucifer as a kind of savior or even see themselves as Lucifer. And while it's true that Lucifer isn't Satan, they still gotten Lucifer all wrong and I feel the entire part in the Bible in Isiah about Lucifer is actually a warning against people like them - people who rule with an iron fist and think they are God. I read some of the Hermetic texts. If you don't interpret them the way that Gnostics do, then I feel the texts themselves actually aren't bad and many of them actually praise, glorify and defend God. But Gnostics of course interpret it differently and turn everything upside down.
So my interpretation of Lucifer & Satan is through Hellenismo. They are Eros & Thanatos. I have a new slide for this, but it's not uploaded yet. Lucifer is Eros & Thanatos is Satan/Saturn. Lucifer is a deity of life and Satan is a deity of death. I am trying to work within the ancient context of these names not the modern biblical connotations,
In short, Lucifer is the morningstar, and satan is not. Recall that Jesus calls himself morningstar - which is Lucifer in Latin. In my view, Jesus was claiming to be Lucifer when he said he is the morningstar.
And yes I share your frustration with the gnostics. They have a lot to answer for. I have a whole new section on this in my book upcoming.
Hmmm... interesting... I realize you know a lot. Since you mentioned Lucifer, Saturn and Satan all in the same sentence and then also talked about the morning star, I am assuming you know about their relationship and what Lucifer originally referred to and where all of this comes from. But in any case, I can highly recommend the works of Immanuel Velikovsky and David Talbott (2 t's). But chances are you probably read them already, haven't you? ;-)
In short; nowadays we regard Venus as the morning star, but in ancient times that was actually Saturn. So Lucifer originally referred to the morning star which in turn originally referred to Saturn.
Also, why is Satan depicted with horns? Cause in ancient times people worshiped the divine bull and that was then made into Pagan idols like Baal and people would make bull statues and offer them (animal and human) sacrifice. What's the divine bull? Basically it's again Saturn - when viewed at an angle Saturn's ring looks like a bull's horn. Of course back then Saturn looked a bit different and had a different orbit - that's just roughly the idea.
I'm actually fairly new to theology & mythology, I've only been at it about 2 years. Most of my work has been in energy science. As such, I appreciate the insights.
In my model, the morning(star) is mercury and the dawn(star) is venus, I have my reasons for it, they will be published in the not too distant future.